Heavy Weather Maintenance

Heavy Weather Maintenance

I began my career as a marine surveyor in the specialized niche of a damage assessor. Christian & Company, Marine Surveyors Inc. continues to perform a large number of damage appraisals, working for marine claims departments, boat owners and boat yards. Heavy weather gives rise to an increase in damage claims, with most of the claims occurring while the vessel is in its slip or on a mooring. Based on our experience, there are a few, simple maintenance procedures, which will prevent most heavy weather related damage.

Anticipation and preparation for heavy weather is crucial. Just as most boaters secure loose items to prepare for a voyage, we must prepare our vessels for exposure to heavy weather. The intense rain fall in Southern California in the month of January magnified the problems with leaks.

Many boats have leaks through hatches, port lights or a myriad of hardware fastened to the deck. Many times just properly closing and securing these hatches, tightening the dogs and installing covers is sufficient. Occasionally all hatch gaskets, port light seals and even bedding compound requires maintenance. Water stains on the interior of a vessel are a sure indication of a leak above.

Some vessels accumulate a significant amount of water in the bilge during heavy rainstorms. Hatch drains are a common culprit if they are improperly maintained. A hatch drain plugged with dirt and debris prevents the drain from functioning and will allow the water to run over the lip of the drain and into the bilge.

Many trailer boats “sink” on their trailer. Canvas covers allow rain to pool and leak through. We handle “trailer submersion claims” every spring. Boat covers need to be maintained and installed with a camber, causing the water to run off the vessel and not accumulate on the cover. Drain plugs should be removed, the bow should be up and debris in the bilge should be removed to prevent it from “clogging the drain”. Trailer boats are no different that boats afloat, they need to be checked on periodically and after a heavy rain is a good time.

A trick of the marine surveying trade is to look below areas of water accumulation for problems, including problems with the coring, fungus deterioration, warping of plywood and mould.

Heavy weather can make for unintended docking
Heavy weather can make for unintended docking

Significant rain water accumulation in the bilge of the vessel can always be handled by a functional automatic bilge pump provided that a good power source is available. Bilge pumps and float switches should be checked. Batteries should be charged and chargers should be functional and utilized. While checking the function of bilge pumps, it is a good time to check the discharge systems. If any of the bilge pumps, sump pumps, or similar pumps are located lower than their discharges and the discharge is located below the waterline, the system requires a vented loop to prevent back flooding. Check valves should not be relied upon in this application. The bilge should be clean of debris that can foul the pumps.

Heavy weather also comes with increased winds and large swells. These forces test the lines which are securing vessels. Owners are responsible for portions of their mooring arrangement and most boaters are responsible for their dock lines. Heavy weather requires lines to be checked for chafe, chafe protection to be properly utilized and fenders to be checked and positioned properly.

Absentee owners should engage the services of a maintenance company or a trusted boating friend. Checks should be made before and after all heavy storms. Water leaks or water accumulation should be dealt with preemptively. Bilge pump function, drain systems, covers and the proper securing of lines can be quickly assessed and by doing so much of the damage we see can be prevented.

Insuring a boat against damage is wise. Realize that not all damage is covered by insurance. Long term leaks can lead to coring deterioration, wood rot, mould and mildew and this type of damage may not be covered by insurance. If your vessel is damaged by another vessel which comes loose during a storm, the liability adjuster for the other vessel may decline coverage based on an exclusion for an “act of god”. Having your own insurance will cover you in this instance. The tsunami caused by the Chilean earthquake broke a dock by the Bali Hai restaurant and two boats were separated from their mooring in America’s Cup Harbor. The January storms contributed to the escape of many boats from their moorings.

After the rains subside the vessel should be opened and ventilated. Wet cushions should be lifted and allowed to dry. Fungus deterioration of wood requires wood, proper temperature range, fungus spores and moisture. The only one of those four prerequisites that is under the control of most boat owners is moisture. Properly ventilating the vessel after a rain storm will also prevent mould and mildew.

Sailboats need to consider if the sails are properly secured. Walk through a marina during a storm and you are sure to see a couple roller furling jibs flogging in the wind. Powerboats should consider their canvas as well. Is the canvas or enclosure properly secure? Is the external upholstery secure? Is the tender secure and covered to prevent water accumulation?

We hope this is helpful and informative and will assist in reducing damage to your boat, but if not, perhaps we will have the opportunity to spend some time with you. Please keep Christian & Company Marine Surveyors, Inc. in mind for any future marine surveying needs of yours or your boating friends.

 

This article was edited on March 1, 2016.

Surveys for Sellers

Surveys for Sellers

A marine survey performed at the time a vessel is listed for sale allows the broker and seller the opportunity to address deficiencies in advance of the sale’s process, facilitating a smooth sales process. It also provides a realistic appraisal and it enhances the listing.

A seller’s survey, though non-traditional, has been used as an effective sales tool by many experienced sellers and brokers for some time. Identifying deficiencies in a vessel, which will inevitably lead to further negotiations, increases the closing percentage. Every deficiency which requires negotiation is another opportunity for the buyer or seller to alter the course of the sale. Negotiating repairs or contingency fees delays the sale process. Addressing deficiencies prior to the sales contract provides for a more fluid and hassle free sales process.index-kells

A recent survey commissioned by the seller found a loose steering stop. The problem was potentially serious, as a slight progression could have resulted in steering failure. Fortunately, the problem was easily addressed. This allowed the seller to choose the repairer and repair method with no pressure, effect the repair and eliminate this problem prior to the sales process. This is the type of problem, even when skillfully explained, that can create questions in the buyer’s mind. This boat is being sold and there will be no issue with the steering system during the buyer’s survey.

A seller’s survey does not necessarily preclude a buyer’s survey. A unique option we are promoting is a “split survey”. If the buyer and seller agree to share their surveys, a positive result is obtained from the purchase process, whether or not that sale is consummated. If the buyer does not proceed with the purchase, they have saved money on the survey process and the seller/owner has a full and complete survey, also at a significant savings. If the sale is consummated, the buyer has saved money on the survey cost and the seller has obtained their ultimate goal.

We offer a seller’s survey at a discount from our standard buyer’s survey price. The seller’s survey is performed in the slip, the machine systems are not tested during a sea trial, the vessel is not hauled but most deficiencies can still be reported and addressed prior to a sales contract being signed. The seller’s survey can be coupled with a sea trial and bottom inspection, funded by the buyer, and these surveys together should meet all the requirements for finance and insurance and provide the buyer and seller with a thorough condition and valuation report, inclusive of a bottom inspection and sea trial.

Some lenders and insurance carriers are requesting the surveyor comment on the function of the engines, the sea trial takes care of this issue.

In the unsteady economic times we have noticed a sharp decline in boat values. An independent appraisal of the value is advantageous to the seller and the broker. The seller can rest assured that the surveyor has no financial interest in the evaluation and the independent appraisal can assist the broker in their dealings with the seller and with potential buyers.

The existence of a recent marine survey, particularly if done by a marine surveying company known for professionalism, integrity and thoroughness, enhances a listing. It provides more information for potential buyers to consider, thus capturing their attention and increasing the chances of their making an offer. It provides additional information for brokers browsing listings and is an invaluable tool in the listing process. The existence of a recent survey provides an advantage to the seller in a tough market where any advantage is important. In the example of the steering system repair, the survey finding was addressed and the combination of the survey, recommendation compliance comment and physical repair, gives the potential buyer an indication of “pride of ownership”.

Any vessel listed for sale or potentially for sale should have the bottom inspected during each haul out. This provides a future potential buyer with documentation of the condition of the vessel and may save the expense of a second haul for survey. It provides the seller with the documentation of the condition of the bottom, which is often useful when seeking insurance or financing, which are occasionally unexpected needs.

Christian & Company Marine Surveyors is ideally suited to perform seller’s surveys. We excel in customer service and welcome enquiries from potential buyers. We communicate effectively to reduce fear and confusion while accurately portraying the condition of the vessel. Our friendly office staff facilitates the transmission of surveys, communication between clients and our three surveyors and maintains customer service at the highest level in our industry.

Tax Assessments

Tax Assessments

Marine surveyors’ primary product to the boating community is a vessel condition and valuation report. By default marine surveyors have become the de-facto vessel appraisers in the United States. Due to the falling value of vessels, Christian & Company has received numerous requests for appraisals in order to lower the basis for property tax assessment. As a result, we did some research to educate ourselves and to share what we learned with others who may be interested.

In California there is a state personal property tax of 1% per year. The research we did was primarily through the San Diego Tax Assessors office; they are extremely helpful. They appraise vessels and assess taxes, which include the 1% state personal property tax and may include slightly more taxes depending on geographic location for items such as retiring bonds. The additional localized taxes seldom are more than .2 percent. The address for the San Diego marine and aviation tax assessor’s office is 9225 Claremont Mesa Blvd. 1st Floor, San Diego, California 92123. Phone numbers for San Diego, Orange County, Los Angeles and Ventura counties are included at the end of this document.thetaxmaniswatching1

All vessels located within the county on January 1st of each year are subject to the tax. A list of all vessels registered in the state of California is provided to the tax assessor’s office by the California Department of Motor Vehicles. The DMV does not collect the property tax on vessels; it is collected by the County Assessors office. Marina operators provide a list of slip renters and the assessors office has a team of four who “walk the docks”, collecting information on vessels to supplement the information provided by marina operators. This is the method for obtaining a list of U.S. documented vessels that are subject to the tax.

When the vessel first appears on the tax assessor’s roll, it is appraised. The assessor appraises the value as of January 1st of each year. The initial value may be determined by the purchase price or through appraisal techniques. Among tools available and used by the assessor’s office are value guide books including A.B.O.S., N.A.D.A. and B.U.C. and value data bases available on the internet. Due to the number of vessels which require appraisal and the limited personnel, the value of an individual vessel is not thoroughly and extensively researched by the tax assessor’s office and vessel inspections are not performed. They appraise thousands of vessels and thus are unable to spend too much time on each appraisal.

After an initial value of a vessel is established, the subsequent value is adjusted annually per a depreciation scale determined by the tax assessor’s office. A higher depreciation percentage is applied to new vessels and the percentage of depreciation decreases with age.

Based on our experience, vessel values have suffered a significant decrease in the last two years and are currently trending rapidly downward. We recommend you take a few moments to review the appraised value of your vessel and feel free to call or email us if you would like a free verbal approximation of its value. Perhaps a formal appraisal of your vessel will allow a reduction in taxes for the immediate tax bill and for years to come.

The tax assessor’s office has no firm or written guidelines as to what they will accept as proof of value for your vessel. There is a handbook available through the State Board of Equalization. A marine survey is one of the options available for you to document the current value of your vessel. The tax assessor’s office will consider any documentation and if they agree, they will change the appraised value and the tax accordingly. If they disagree with your value an appeal can be made. Appeals are initially addressed with a second consideration of the value and are followed with a board review if the vessel owner and the assessor’s office still disagree on valuation.

Christian & Company Marine Surveyors, Inc. would be happy to provide a written valuation of your vessel and our fee is often less than the tax savings in a single year, with additional financial benefits in the years to follow.

County Tax Assessor – Marine and Aviation contact telephone numbers:

San Diego 858-505-6200

Los Angeles 213-974-3119

Orange County 714-834-2772

Ventura 805-654-2193

The Importance of Maintaining Good Boat Insurance

The Importance of Maintaining Good Boat Insurance

As the name of the article implies, we feel that maintaining suitable insurance on your vessel is important. We buy insurance to protect us from unexpected events and there are the obvious reasons to insure your boat and there are lesser known, but important benefits, which we will discuss. Over two decades of assisting marine insurance carriers with damage claims is the perspective from which this article is written and it was inspired by a recent speech at a San Diego area yacht club. The gathering of “seasoned” boaters requested that the undersigned speak about the importance of maintaining suitable boat insurance and how to maintain the boat so it “passes” survey. This is part one of a two part article based on that speech.

Most of the insurance claims which we have handled involve either damage to the boat owned by the insured or financial exposures to the boat owner for liability arising from that ownership. A boat owner can choose to buy liability only insurance, however most boat policies include coverage for both types of losses. Generally, liability only insurance is purchased if the vessel itself can be lost without significant financial harm to the owner, but he or she chooses or is required to provide liability protection for themselves or a marina. This option protects assets other than the boat. Liability only insurance, is usually purchased to save money, as it costs less than a policy offering full coverage. Liability insurance does not offer coverage for damage to your boat.

Damage to your vessel, covered under your policy of insurance is referred to as a first party claim. The handling of the claim including the coverage decisions, adjustment and payments are governed by the insurance policy. The policy is a contract between the insured and the insurance carrier and it stipulates what is covered, what is excluded, what is depreciated and other important details. On the declarations page of the policy you will find your limits of coverage, deductibles and the various components of the policy, which will include vessel value limitation and liability exposure limitations.

Typical first party claims involve submersions or partial submersions, collisions or an allision *, fires, smoke and machinery failure. The basic purpose for property damage coverage in your boat insurance claim is to minimize your financial exposure due to an unexpected, accidental loss to your boat. Many policies also use language such as “sudden” and “fortuitous”, with the idea that gradual wear and tear, deterioration and normal maintenance are not covered.

In the second part of this article we will discuss the most common causes of the typical claims and how to maintain a vessel to prevent them. The underlying idea that the claims are “unexpected” is the most important motivation for maintaining first party coverage. While most of the boat owners with whom we interface while handling claims did not anticipate the loss, many times there are clues which foreshadowed the loss. Being aware of a subtle, small change in the condition of the vessel will often prevent a significant loss by breaking the chain of unfortunate circumstances which often precede a significant damage claim.

Submersions often occur due to the failure of a bilge pump, or so we are told by boat owners. In every submersion claim we have ever handled, the basic cause of the loss is always the same. While the bilge pump failure may have contributed, the true cause of the submersion is always “too much water on the inside”. Boats, even wooden boats, should keep the water on the outside. If you find water accumulating in the bilge, or the bilge pump is cycling, determine the source of the leak immediately.

Similarly address any change in the condition or function of the boat and its systems when they are first noticed. If the circuit breaker trips, determine the cause and address it appropriately. If your engine has always been reliable and starts on the first turn, but today cranks for several seconds before starting. Don’t ignore the clues your boat is trying to give you. We have noticed that recreational boats’ engines rarely wear out; the failures are usually the result of a component failure that goes unchecked. Conversely commercial boat’s engines hiccup and the captain notices and addresses the issue, leading to much longer service lives than recreational boats’ engines.

Machinery failure is a component of boat insurance policy that is often misunderstood. Some policies exclude machinery failure. Most policies provide coverage for machinery failure, but all policies limit coverage based on the cause of loss. We see engine failures covered by boat insurance policies regularly. Maintain the vessel and the engine; pay attention to clues to prevent catastrophic failure but don’t overlook possible assistance from your insurance policy if a catastrophe occurs.

A boat owner’s nephew was taking the boat out on a summer holiday. After a short time, he noticed a change in the engine. The change was small and included a different noise and a change in the exhaust smoke. He slowed the engines, turned them off and discussed the situation with the other passengers. Nobody aboard was an experienced, seasoned mariner. They decided to restart the engines, without checking the engine room or determining the cause of the change. Everything appeared normal and they continued on their holiday excursion. A short time later the cabin was filled with smoke and the voyage was aborted as the operator and passengers were rescued and the vessel was attended by the fire department and towed to a boat yard.

The inspection revealed that there was a fire in the engine room. The fire was initiated by the failure of an exhaust hose. The exhaust hose failed due to cooling water blockage in the engines exhaust mixing elbow. The blockage in the mixing elbow was caused by corrosion and is a common failure mode.

The good news was the passengers were rescued and uninjured. The fixed fire extinguisher in the engine room functioned properly and the vessel was not a total loss. The bad news was the claim was denied and preventable. Had the operator checked the engine after the first indication of a problem, he would have likely been alerted to the impending failure of the exhaust system and could have discontinued using the vessel until proper repairs were made.

Fire damage claims do not always arise due to causes that are aboard the insured vessel. Fire claims are a common third party claim. Third party claims are when a claim is made for damage to your property, against an insurance policy for something other than your boat, like another boat, boat yard or marina or when others make a claim on your policy for damage to their property. Just because a fire starts on another vessel and damages your boat, don’t assume that the other boat’s insurance policy will pay for the damage to your vessel. If the cause of the fire is deemed to be negligence on the part of the boat owner, coverage may be extended. However, if the cause is not deemed to be negligence you may have to rely on your own policy to cover the expense for repairing the damage to your vessel. For instance, a fire caused by a cigarette butt thrown onto your neighbor’s vessel is not due to the neighbor’s negligence. Many times, the exact cause of the fire is never definitively determined. This is another reason to assure that your vessel has property damage coverage to protect your investment and your asset. Fires also illustrate the benefits of liability coverage.

The liability portion of your policy covers you from financial exposures which arise due to the ownership, maintenance or operation of your vessel. Most boat owners consider liability protection as defense against law suits such as personal injury claims or damages resulting from collisions from other vessels or structures. These are the normal uses, occasions arise where even the circumstances of these somewhat anticipated situations are surprising and the liability portion of your policy provides additional protection which you may not have considered. A somewhat unique circumstance arose during a sea trial of a vessel which was pending sale. Engine control failure resulted in the vessel colliding with a private dock during the sea trial, with the potential owner aboard. The vessel’s owner was not aboard, but his insurance policy remained in effect. The insurance policy took care of the expense of repairing the private dock and the skilled broker salvaged the transaction, leaving all parties satisfied. This example illustrates why the policy should remain in effect until the ownership is fully and completely transferred and illustrates the benefits of the liability portion of the policy resulting from an unexpected incident.

It is unlikely that any other policy, including your homeowner’s policy, will provide coverage from liability arising from ownership of a vessel. Most homeowner’s policies specifically exclude liability arising from ownership or operation of a watercraft.

If your vessel was to suffer the unfortunate circumstance of a submersion or a partial submersion, the liability portion of your boat insurance policy is where coverage can be found for salvage. Salvers maintain expensive equipment and have highly specialized skills and experience. If their skill and equipment is used to raise your vessel, you will learn how expensive their expertise can be. The salvage expense will likely be borne by your boat insurance carrier. Vessel towing policies generally exclude even simple de-watering operations and virtually never include coverage for salvage operations of any kind.

Many marinas require liability insurance and may require being named as an additional insured on your policy. This requirement may be enforced at your home marina or at a guest dock while cruising. Some policies provide coverage for costs to mitigate pollution, including fuel spills and may even pay the fines which accompany the spill. These are additional benefits from maintaining suitable insurance on your boat.

By far, the best insurance is a knowledgeable boat owner, an active maintenance schedule and an operator who pays attention to subtle clues that the boat gives. As the above examples illustrate, accidents do happen. Insure the vessel, protect the value of the asset and insulate your personal wealth with a suitable boat insurance policy.

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In addition to maintaining adequate boat insurance, some losses involving a vessel may be covered by other policies. Homeowner’s insurance often covers loss of personal property and is not limited to the loss of that property from the insured residence. For instance, a watch stolen or lost while boating may be covered by a homeowner’s policy. Some types of boating losses will be specifically excluded by many homeowners’ policies, primarily losses involving the boat itself or liability arising from boat ownership. Those who carry umbrella policies should confirm with their agent that their boat insurance policy and limits are appropriate so that the umbrella policy’s coverage will be seamless.

Why choose a good surveyor?

Why choose a good surveyor?

If the second largest purchase you ever decide to make floats… keep reading. Large yacht owners (and an increasing number of small boat owners) know an investment in a marine survey is worth while. Hire a marine surveyor to inspect the vessel prior to purchase but don’t simply “go through the motions”. Hire a good marine surveyor.kellsprop_0708

If you trust your broker then trust your broker’s selection of a marine surveyor. You are risking a lot more based on your choice of brokers than you are on your choice of marine surveyors. But, don’t trust the broker blindly, ask questions about your options, educate yourself, it is your decision. Ask the broker if they feel the surveyor is the best surveyor available, one that will represent your interests exclusively and rigorously. If the broker has a list of marine surveyors, ask if any surveyors have been excluded because they are too “picky”, too “tough” or “are deal killers”. Ask the broker who they would use if they were buying a vessel for themselves.

Comparing surveyors is a simple task. Narrow your list of potential surveyors based on your initial research, and simply request sample survey reports of vessels similar to the one you wish to purchase. Briefing these reports should take no time at all and you will have a good idea which surveyor fits you best, performs the job you require and which surveyor you feel is good.

You should raise any specific concerns you have about the boat or the survey process with the marine surveyor. Mention any problems you have noticed, any deficiencies you have heard about and discuss any specific inspection techniques that you hope to be accomplished. Ask the surveyor about the extent of the operation of the systems they will perform during the inspection process. Many surveyors operate very little equipment; their sample surveys should reveal these details.

Don’t hire a surveyor by price. Price is not likely to vary by any significant amount and the price of the survey is insignificant compared to the cost of the vessel and the potential cost of not hiring a good marine surveyor.

Assure that the marine surveyor’s report will be accepted by the lending institution, insurance company and marina of your choice. This step can be tricky because you may not have made your choice(s) at the time of purchase. An easy vetting process for this purpose is to choose a surveyor who is a member of a recognized surveyor’s association. The Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors (SAMS) and the National Association of Marine Surveyors (NAMS) are well established and recognized by most financial and insurance institutions. Also make sure the surveyor has sufficient length of time in the trade and is experienced with the type of vessel you’re buying.

Don’t skip the survey because you are buying a vessel “as-is”. It is better to know what you are buying than to be surprised. A recent client buying a vessel with no possibility of survey allowances; was happy to learn of two significant survey findings. A bobstay fitting exhibited significant corrosion and a through hull valve was not properly functional. The bobstay fitting was easily removed, cleaned, inspected and reinstalled. A new snubber connection was attached, it was reinstalled with little expense and effort. The through hull valve was subsequently determined to be corroded. The repairer easily broke the valve stem, necessitating the replacement of the valve. The client decided to replace the through hull in conjunction with the valve and thus took the utmost advantage of the haul for survey. Although there was no survey allowance from the seller, the buyer still realized the benefit of a good marine survey.

Don’t accept an old survey done for another client. Get the benefit of the survey process along with the survey. Learn the boat with the surveyor, if you hire a good surveyor, the education during the survey will be invaluable. If you use an old survey, you have no idea of the events of the day and the money and time saved may be the worst investment you ever didn’t make. The report also may not be useful for the finance, insurance or marina requirements.

Brokers desiring long term relationships with boat owners should limit their referral list to good marine surveyors. The true condition of the vessel should be determined and any issues resolved at the time of purchase. This results in a satisfied customer, who feels they were treated fairly and this feeling builds a relationship which is sure to continue. Discard the clutter of negative reputations and you may discover that the “deal killer” is actually a good deal maker. Referring “sub-standard” marine surveyors often comes back to bite brokers. Don’t refer a surveyor that you wouldn’t want surveying your own boat; ethically there should be no difference between a good surveyor when you’re “buying” and a good surveyor when you’re “selling”.

Marine Surveyor FAQs

What is a marine surveyor:?

A boat inspector. The most common type of job we do is similar to a home inspector and appraiser combined into one for a boat or a yacht.

What does Christian & Company do?

We basically have two products.

1) We perform “condition and valuation” marine inspections on boats and yachts. These inspections are performed in order to determine “what shape she is in” and “what she is worth”. We inspect the boat, we test virtually every system and component and we encourage sea trials as well. We usually have the boats hauled to allow an inspection of the bottom.

2) We handle insurance claims in San Diego for insurance companies. These insurance inspections determine the cause of loss, identify the scope of damage and review costs.

We also do various special projects, new build monitoring, consultation and litigation support work.

When is a marine surveyor needed?

Our professional boat surveyors in San Diego are typically employed when a boat is purchased (by the buyer), when a boat is refinanced and when an insurance policy is up for renewal. Marine inspections and surveys are also the basis for valuation of a boat as an asset for a multitude of reasons – probate, divorce, etc…

How do you choose a marine surveyor?

Our web site has an article on this, but in short: shop! Ask around, talk with the boat yards, boat brokers, insurance and finance companies and see who is recommended. Boat surveyors in San Diego and around Southern California usually develop a reputation. Often surveyors are known in the industry as a “buyers” surveyor, we suggest the buyer hire a surveyor with a reputation for being thorough and ethical. The client should also make sure the boat surveyor has performed marine inspections and insurance surveys that have been recognized by the insurance and financial institutions being used, as applicable.

What are marine surveyors qualifications?

Qualifications are very diverse among marine surveyors. There is very little organized, formal training. There are no licenses for marine surveyors in most states. All one really needs is a business card. There is no governmental regulation of the industry. There is a school in Florida that runs a six week program. Over the years most boat surveyors in San Diego have learned the business as a trade, from another marine surveyor, more or less as an apprentice. Many banks and insurance companies look for membership in one of two organizations SAMS and NAMS. Members of these organizations need five years surveying experience performing insurance surveys and marine inspections, and must take a test to become accredited members. I have been a member of SAMS since about 1993 and was the Pacific Regional Director for several years.

What type of training and education do marine surveyors have?

Again it is diverse. We require continuing education as part of the membership and a lot of my education has come from symposiums hosted by SAMS. There are many other organizations that provide excellent educational opportunities. They include ABYC, a organization that has developed a set of voluntary standards for boat construction and IBEX, a boating industry educational symposium held once a year.

What are the different types of marine surveyors and surveys?

There are marine surveyors that do what we do, boats and yachts – basically recreational craft. There are marine surveyors that specialize in ships, including the inspection of the ship and cargo inspections. There are also commercial craft boat surveyors in San Diego and around California working on tugs and barges, commercial fishing vessels and special purpose craft, ie. dredges, etc…

What are the criteria for banks and insurance companies?

Membership in either SAMS and NAMS is the most common requirement. Some companies have their own list of accepted boat surveyors. Often companies in San Diego take marine inspections and insurance surveys from anyone if it is complete and the surveyor submits a resume and references. SAMS has produced a “minimum surveyor content list”. It is a good yardstick to measure surveys by.

What types of marine surveys are available?

There are different levels of marine surveys, some are more extensive and some are less. Our San Diego boat inspectors offer a few different types of marine surveys, designed for the needs of the client. Our pre-purchase inspections are very thorough, due to the buying decision that is partially based on the results. We offer a less expensive survey for other purposes, primarily designed for the boat owner who is required to get a survey, but don’t necessarily want one, (for example for insurance renewal or refinancing). For these we offer a discount, but still perform a fairly thorough inspection.

How to choose a surveyor

How to choose a surveyor

The niche trade of marine surveying has many specialty niches within it. There are marine surveyors who specialize in yachts and small craft, the specialty mostly familiar to the reader of our articles. There are ship surveyors, cargo surveyors, commercial fishing vessel surveyors, tug and barge surveyors and specialty surveyors within these niches. Yacht and small craft surveyors primarily perform two types of surveys, condition and valuation surveys and damage surveys.coin flip

Boat owners most commonly require the services of a marine surveyor when they are buying a boat or trying to obtain or renew insurance for their boat. Marine surveyors are the appraisers in the boating industry, and as such are often required for loans, estate issues, divorces and a myriad of other situations where a vessel’s value is required. A growing number of marinas are requiring marine surveys before allowing boats in, as evidenced by the regular calls we receive from boat owners looking to change marinas in the past few years.

So how should you choose a marine surveyor when you need one? Start by understanding what type of survey report you need, its potential uses and make a short list of surveyors able to give you what you need. Remember if you are buying a boat, the survey report may be required by a lender, insurance company and marina. So in addition to finding a marine surveyor who is able to professionally assess the condition of the boat, make sure the survey report will be accepted by the other institutions that may request a copy.

If you don’t have a relationship with a marine surveyor and are trying to develop that short list, consult with your broker (usually they give a list so as not to create any conflict or liability), ask your lender, your insurance agent, the boat yard, the marine manager or your boating neighbors. There are two recognized marine surveying organizations, S.A.M.S., the Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors and N.A.M.S., the National Association of Marine Surveyors. Both maintain online rosters. Other marine surveyors are also great referral sources, your first choice is unavailable, ask them for a referral. Marine surveyors quickly develop a reputations (buyer’s surveyor or broker’s surveyor for instance), and most of the industry professionals are aware of the reputations. If you want a thorough surveyor, ask your broker about their list and if any surveyors are “too thorough” for their list. If you can trust your broker with all aspects of buying a boat, certainly they can be trusted with guidance regarding your choice of a marine surveyor.

After you have a short list, make a few calls; see which surveyor fits your personality. Ask them about their experience, what they do and don’t do and if they will allow or prefer you to attend. The pre-purchase marine surveying event is an excellent opportunity to share knowledge with clients and a great time for the buyer to begin to learn the vessel and its systems. For the truly diligent shopper, review survey reports. The written reports are an excellent way to compare marine surveyors and many surveyors will have sample reports online for easy access. If you need a survey, for insurance or a marina, then use price as another criteria; prices usually don’t vary much and should not be a criteria for choosing a surveyor you want to check out a boat for purchase (penny wise and pound foolish).

If you have a special need, a damaged boat or a unique boat, be sure to explain what you need and ask about the surveyor’s experience with it. Ethically a marine surveyor should decline any job that they are not qualified for, but “the buyer should also beware”.

Once you have chosen the marine surveyor, how can you get the most for your money? If you are buying a boat, we suggest you attend the inspection, spend as much time as you can with the surveyor, be interactive, ask questions and learn. Make sure that everything you care about is tested, try the windlass, all the refrigeration devices, the generator, electronics and through hull valves. Learn how to test that automatic bilge pump and after you buy it, test it occasionally. During the sea trial, take the helm, try the engine controls, auto pilot and change the pre-sets on the multi function electronic display. And then, ponder the water maker…

There are limitations during surveys. The surveyor should discuss the important ones during the survey so you can decide if you need something further. If you want to test everything, including the water maker, make the request before the survey and allow the broker or seller to arrange for anything required. Water makers are often “pickled” (preserved for longer periods of disuse), running them may require special knowledge and the seller may request they be returned to their pre-test state. Most other systems can be tested without prior planning, but you have to take a sea trial to test an autopilot and a surprising few sailors test the spinnaker gear or open all sails.

There are many important parts of a vessel that are difficult or impossible to fully assess. These include the condition of the fuel and integrity of tanks, condition of coring material, battery condition, proper function of tank level gauges, engine instruments, electronics and entertainment devices. Most of these can be assessed to a point but not completely. Many buyers do their homework before a survey, research known weaknesses on boat owner’s group web sites, discuss these issues and the surveyor may bring along a moisture meter, special scope, or other diagnostic tool that may help answer the important questions and reduce your risk. Additional inspections are occasionally necessary, the most common are mechanical surveys on engines, transmissions and generators, and rigging surveys on sailing systems.

After the survey is completed, we feel a thorough “de-brief” is crucial. It is much easier to understand what the survey is reporting if you can see, test, hear, or smell the problem first hand. Some items are removed from the list by including the seller or broker or calling the seller during the “de-brief”. The seller can tell you about the unlabeled circuit breaker that energizes the new chart plotter or the hidden circuit breaker for the windlass.

If you have a damaged boat, the insurance company will often hire a marine surveyor to assist them. In this capacity the insurance company’s surveyor will report on the cause of loss, scope of damage, and cost of repair. The marine surveyor will likely be fair, professional and ethical. There are times when the boat owner should hire their own surveyor. We suggest active communication and involvement during the decision-making portions of damage claims, don’t hesitate to hire your own surveyor should you feel the need, the cost of the surveyor is most often negligible relative to the cost of the repair.

The active boat owner, buyer, and seller will occasionally have other special needs. Marine surveyors are able to assist with project management for new builds or refits. Marine surveyors are used as experts in many types of litigation, including values, repair disputes, salvage issues, and transactional hiccups. We often receive calls from clients to discuss our opinions on normal boating decisions, such as cruising equipment and obscure but common issues, like waste odor. We often are asked for recommendations for service providers, captains, canvas companies, and an unlimited number of other specialties. A marine surveyor often has a wide and unbiased view point that is well suited for this type of assistance. We always welcome these inquiries; good will is integral to good service and we just might need a referral from you tomorrow.

 

This post was edited on February 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM.